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[Chuck U]

I see in Tom's post about the solo tour JB is going to be doing in Oz that 4 new songs are being bounced around for the set list......so I was wondering what the time frame is for a new JBT disc to be recorded? If they will be jamming in the studio in the near future, would that make a release possible as early as beginning of 2013?? Anyone heard any news pertaining to this?

Peace.

[pomes27]

I'd love for the Tin Shed Tales tour to be released on CD and/or DVD, but I haven't heard anything official about it happening.
In terms of the next release, I think 2013 is a pretty reasonable estimate, three years after April Uprising. All the Trio LP releases have been 3 years apart: John Butler (1998), Three (2001), Sunrise Over Sea (2004), Grand National (2007), April Uprising (2010). Thinking about it now, maybe this three year gap thing is another part of John's whole Three theme (as in the linear notes for Three, it's stated that there's more to the title than it just being their third release).

[earthbound child]

Good point bro!

[Zephyr]

I'd love for the Tin Shed Tales tour to be released on CD and/or DVD, but I haven't heard anything official about it happening.
In terms of the next release, I think 2013 is a pretty reasonable estimate, three years after April Uprising. All the Trio LP releases have been 3 years apart: John Butler (1998), Three (2001), Sunrise Over Sea (2004), Grand National (2007), April Uprising (2010). Thinking about it now, maybe this three year gap thing is another part of John's whole Three theme (as in the linear notes for Three, it's stated that there's more to the title than it just being their third release).

christ, is it two years since AU was released? Time flies...

[Chuck U]

christ, is it two years since AU was released? Time flies...

Yep, 2 years ago this month - right?

[earthbound child]

Yep, 2 years ago this month - right?

that usually means we got one more year to go!

[misha]

I'd love for the Tin Shed Tales tour to be released on CD and/or DVD, but I haven't heard anything official about it happening.
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Would a DVD really be in accordance to the philosophy of the tour?

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In terms of the next release, I think 2013 is a pretty reasonable estimate, three years after April Uprising.

sigh - That sounds a bit 'demanding' to be honest.... like the guy is some sort of production 'machine'.

From the performance, in reference to 'play it again' requests for 'old' songs, I'm sure I heard the words "not a human jukebox" [or words to that effect] spoken by John.

Think about it.

[chris]

Would a DVD really be in accordance to the philosophy of the tour?

There is a cd being released of the tour, so I don't really understand your point there.

sigh - That sounds a bit 'demanding' to be honest.... like the guy is some sort of production 'machine'.

JB is far from being a "production machine". Pomes is just pointing out that there has been a 3 year gap between the release of each studio album. He is not being demanding at all. Though personally I think 3 years is too long between albums, particularily now that JB has his own studio. But I'm not fussed about it, plenty of other music out there!

From the performance, in reference to 'play it again' requests for 'old' songs, I'm sure I heard the words "not a human jukebox" [or words to that effect] spoken by John.

He is a human jukebox. A jukebox with a limited selection of tracks....

Think about it.

Edited by chris, 20 April 2012 - 04:33 PM.

[misha]

There is a cd being released of the tour, so I don't really understand your point there.

Do you recall the discussion over people taking video of the first performance.... the posts that questioned 'intrusive' effect on doing so... and my question follows - would a 'produced DVD' be of this tour be in accordance with the ideology of 'intimate'.

OK, I had the option of tickets to one of these shows staged in a Melbourne Bar [of all places]. Given my disdain of such places and the drunkard types with zero self respect [and so, zero respect for anyone else] that inhabit such places, there was a snowflakes chance in hell I'd have bought tickets to a gig marketed as 'intimate', as such. Frankly, it could well be many years before I expose myself to a pub, club or bar again..... had enough of that chit to last me a lifetime.
The +2hr drive to the gig and stay overnight [that cost far more than tickets] was well worth the effort to avoid a filthy pub and associated punters, aside of the scenic trip home and bargain records picked up along the way. [true records btw]

Note:

John will unveil some brand new songs alongside tracks from his extensive catalogue on the “Tin Shed Tales” tour. Don’t miss the opportunity to catch the most intimate performance this versatile artist has ever undertaken. It will be a unique experience for any music lover.

http://johnbutlertrio.com/2012/

JB is far from being a "production machine" or prolific. Pomes is just pointing out that there has been a 3 year gap between the release of each studio album.
Though personally I think 3 years is too long between albums, particularily [sic] now that JB has his own studio.

Ummmmm ... who says he is either a "machine" or "prolific"... or "too long"? Not me.

What I do recall clearly, are the words John spoke at the Ballarat gig in reply to the shouted 'requests'. I quote that in previous post.

I am well aware of how public pressure can be a big downer on an artist and know of many performing artists that have been fragile and suffered a 'play it again' demanding mob.
Much respect to John [from Blue and me] for arranging the show as he determined, as an artist should do, rather than be 'directed'.
I can't imagine John, being a performing artist AND a graphic artist, doing other than this 'self determined' way.

But I'm not fussed about it, plenty of other music out there!

Indeed... and many JBT and John solo mini albums, live recordings and DVD's available.
This is my 'good' reply to this, however I must say I am 'fussed', or more so into the values of 'quality over quantity' and 'artistic integrity'.

He is a human jukebox. A jukebox with a limited selection of tracks....

Read that 'John' quote again. I'm not misquoting nor repeating out of context.
Insomuch, as I had posted long ago that "Misha and Blue" would like to hear 'Peaches & Cream' at the show, we are very content with what John chose to perform. I trust it was all very carefully considered and highly reasoned. We left the gig with happy memories as well as items that can be afforded a $$$ value. We consider the happy memories to be worth more.

Consider what I have posted and think about it carefully, if you can.

[chris]

Yes, I recall the conversation about intrusive fans filming on their phones. But I believe that one of the more intimate shows could of been professionally and discreetly filmed....if one hasn't or isn't being filmed by JB or moshcam.

I believe you can have quality, quantity and artistic integrity. Much props for all the recent live releases and tour! But I'm still not fussed how long it takes JB to do another album. Though I would prefer it to be sooner rather than later....that's just my optimistic and wishful opinion. There is plenty of other new stuff to keep me busy in the meantime. But thanks for your 'good' reply...much appreciated! I'm sorry to have offended.

There has been 3 years between each album, pomes wasn't demanding...he was taking an educated estimate as to when the next album may be released. That was what this thread was all about,

I realise I've taken the "jukebox" quote out of context and it would've been quite funny at the time, But it really shouldn't be a big deal to do an audience request from time to time. It's happened in the past. Not everybody understands the ideology of 'intimate', but rather are just out for a good time. If anything, throwing in a request may make a show a little more unique and memorable. Again this is just an opinion or suggestion, not a demand.

JB always delivers, end of.....

[pomes27]

Regarding what I said earlier about the DVD & three years thing, Chris summed up my meaning behind it all pretty well. I am well sure that it is possible for an artist to arrange non-intrusive filming of their show, be it a special intimate gig or whatever. I agree that people sticking up a phone or camera in the artist's face is extremely rude, but I was just hoping that the special (possibly "once-in-a-lifetime") gigs could be shared with others who aren't so fortunate in their geographical location (including myself and other Queenslanders, as well as JB's vast overseas fan base, with many of whom we share this forum). An official DVD release would ensure that whatever method of video capturing used would be in compliance with JB's demands and preferences, compared to an audience member sticking up a video camera for the entire show and sharing it to YouTube afterwards.

Regarding the three years thing, I was just pointing out a couple of facts as objectively as I could. I don't see how that was being "demanding" at all...

... If anything, throwing in a request may make a show a little more unique and memorable. Again this is just an opinion or suggestion, not a demand.

JB always delivers, end of.....

Indeed he does. Related on both your points there, I remember a story from someone on the forum about the Brisbane gig on the early 2010 Australia tour. Unfortunately I wasn't there, so my recalling of another's words will have to suffice here.
John was holding his banjo (I assume for Better Than or Ragged Mile) and somebody in the crowd yelled for him to play Sista (which is usually played by John on one of his 12 strings). Byron then began to play around with the Sista bass riff. John laughed (I guess), warned the crowd that he had probably forgotten some of the words, and the trio jammed out the song with John on banjo and Byron & Nicky doing their thing respectively.
I have no idea how long this lasted, whether it was a short little 1 minute tease or whether they pumped out all of (or most of) the verses and choruses, nonetheless, I wish I'd been there to see it. Would have been awesome!

[Chuck U]

Seems like this thread has gotten a bit testy.....only asking if any information had been made public, since we don't get any JBT information over here in the states.

I'll take that as a "no".

Glad we have the new double live solo disc at least!