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John's Setup: Video

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john says that his stompbox is a 57 with a bunch of foam but what is a 57 ?

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he would definetly be talking about a shure 57 your right, did suprise me though at first, i thought he would have gone a bass mix but then i figured it wasnt naturally a bass sound and it would have been EQ'd to sound so!

pretty cool, i think i saw a little button on his box that he pressed, must stop the signal flow until pressed!

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That was a great video. I'm not a guitar player, but I'm learning the bass and recording arts, and I'm a singer, so i get into the tech aspects of it all.

I have a question though... This video:

is described that he is messing with his Harmonium. When I look up harmonium, I find this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonium
and clearly that is not what he is messing with in the video. Anyone know what it really is that he is talking about here?

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Thanks, Jojomojo!

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No worries mate :)

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Check this out. Get this happening, just hit play, then play Ragged Mile over the top.

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That's brilliant merbo! :)

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just after some confirmation, with his volume pedal, is he running one pickup on the guitar clean and the other one runs through the volume pedal and distortion, so when he does that distorted fade in (like on max sessions ocean) its the two running together? and if he does, do they both run through the marshall? Thanks :D

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just after some confirmation, with his volume pedal, is he running one pickup on the guitar clean and the other one runs through the volume pedal and distortion, so when he does that distorted fade in (like on max sessions ocean) its the two running together? and if he does, do they both run through the marshall? Thanks :D



two pickups to his guitar> his clean sounds bypass the amp and run clean to the FOH> when he fades in the volume it brings in the amp but i believe it may also cut the clean signal to the FOH?

could be wrong though! Edited by valley

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just after some confirmation' date=' with his volume pedal, is he running one pickup on the guitar clean and the other one runs through the volume pedal and distortion, so when he does that distorted fade in (like on max sessions ocean) its the two running together? and if he does, do they both run through the marshall? Thanks :rolleyes:[/quote']



two pickups to his guitar> his clean sounds bypass the amp and run clean to the FOH> when he fades in the volume it brings in the amp but i believe it may also cut the clean signal to the FOH?



could be wrong though!


I though he ALWAYS had the clean sound going out no matter what?

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just after some confirmation' date=' with his volume pedal' date=' is he running one pickup on the guitar clean and the other one runs through the volume pedal and distortion, so when he does that distorted fade in (like on max sessions ocean) its the two running together? and if he does, do they both run through the marshall? Thanks :o[/quote'']



two pickups to his guitar> his clean sounds bypass the amp and run clean to the FOH> when he fades in the volume it brings in the amp but i believe it may also cut the clean signal to the FOH?



could be wrong though!


I though he ALWAYS had the clean sound going out no matter what?


maybe but then youd htink you would hear two guitars?

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It's a Shruti box



[url]http://www.johnbutlertrio.com/central/viewtopic.php?id=766[/url]



look toward the end of the thread :(

aye, now you say its a shruti box :o :P

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two pickups to his guitar> his clean sounds bypass the amp and run clean to the FOH> when he fades in the volume it brings in the amp but i believe it may also cut the clean signal to the FOH?



could be wrong though!


I though he ALWAYS had the clean sound going out no matter what?


maybe but then youd htink you would hear two guitars?


yeah but isn't that what he was saying about phasing? - that puts the two sounds together into the sound we hear.

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I though he ALWAYS had the clean sound going out no matter what?


maybe but then youd htink you would hear two guitars?


yeah but isn't that what he was saying about phasing? - that puts the two sounds together into the sound we hear.


you may be right zeph..

hmm shall be interesting to follow this up more! johnvestigation :shifty:

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maybe but then youd htink you would hear two guitars?


yeah but isn't that what he was saying about phasing? - that puts the two sounds together into the sound we hear.


you may be right zeph..



hmm shall be interesting to follow this up more! johnvestigation :shifty:




Actually what i Think he does is : He has 2 pickups in his guitar : 1 neck pickup and 1 bridge pickup... 1 is a magnetic pickup and 1 is an acoustic pickup. As you all know when he changes guitars in his live shows he plugs 2 jacks into his guitar. 1 jack is run into his stomp board where he has all his effects then it runs thru his avalon then into his marshall which is always on the distorted channel . His other pickup goes straight into his avalon then to the front of house as john calls it. The thing that makes the transition from the clean sound to the distorted sound is an ernie ball volume pedal that he uses as a stereo a/b switch where he switches from his acoustic pickup to his magnetic pickup. As for the constant clean sound i don't know if it's always there i personally don't think so! Hope it helped !

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Anybody actually know what the pickups are in john butlers weissenborn? one is a seymour duncan magmic, but what is the other cause he's got 2 output jacks right?

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[url]http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/john-butler-trio/Oct-07/32089[/url]



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[url]http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/john-butler-trio/Oct-07/32089[/url]



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Ahhh. so he splits the signal. wonder if u could do that on the seymour duncans. muchly appreciated!



After having a little stickybeak, It looks to me as though splitting the signal could get a bit, fiddly, let alone technical. The output junction looks very likely to be inside the pickup. I imagine it might be easier to disable or isolate the magmic's mic circuit rather than it would be to split the magmic's signal somehow.

That's just a hunch mind you, based on John's approach. It could be that the Maton APMic pickup's mic section, for this purpose, is superior or more desirable in one way or another, but I'm only guessing. In any case though, the two signals will need to be split. That's the ticket.

Maybe, you should look for a quality, stand alone, mic, in any event. Something like what Jeff Lang likes to use, namely, Acoustech Dynafield mics, engineered by Dave Wendler. Sounds like a little ripper to me and the Langster's no slouch when it comes to serious tone and terminal G.A.S. That's for certain. Edited by merbo

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Ahhh. so he splits the signal. wonder if u could do that on the seymour duncans. muchly appreciated!



After having a little stickybeak, It looks to me as though splitting the signal could get a bit, fiddly, let alone technical. The output junction looks very likely to be inside the pickup. I imagine it might be easier to disable or isolate the magmic's mic circuit rather than it would be to split the magmic's signal somehow.



That's just a hunch mind you, based on John's approach. It could be that the Maton APMic pickup's mic section, for this purpose, is superior or more desirable in one way or another, but I'm only guessing. In any case though, the two signals will need to be split. That's the ticket.



Maybe, you should look for a quality, stand alone, mic, in any event. Something like

what Jeff Lang likes to use

, namely, Acoustech Dynafield mics, engineered by

Dave Wendler

. Sounds like a little ripper to me and

the Langster's no slouch

when it comes to serious tone and terminal G.A.S. That's for certain.


yeah i suppose thats probably a better idea, to find a decent stand alone mic rather than rewiring stuff. i will indeed check out jeff langs setup.
thanks again! Edited by AJGooch

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No sweat. Keep asking, keep lookin' around. You'll sort it out, I'm sure. Slow and steady. Bless!

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Thanks for posting this link, but when I go there... there is no info on John's setup. I'm trying to find out what kind of lap steel he plays. Christmas is coming -- gotta make a list!

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